Clinton&#039;s Walk For Justice

Day 355: Goulburn

Day 355: 4.30am

Good morning guys it another beautiful day of walking today. We been making our way into Goulburn town at lunchtime. People who live in Goulburn or around the area please come a long at the mulwaree council chamber to meet me an the team. Also there be lunch there for everyone to eat as well. See you all there

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Rosie has her own page now 😍🐾

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This making me emotional seeing my people back at home in the Pilbara marching for me and supporting what I’m doing.

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Guys, if anyone in Goulburn / Canberra has a trailer the team can use to bring wood to the Embassy – please let us know 🔥⛺️✊

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[Admin Gee] Hey guys, if you’re heading to Tent Embassy this weekend, please remember it is cold! Bring warm gear….if you have any to spare, donations would be much appreciated.

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Got some good news the prime minister wants to meet me, the opposition leader wants to meet me, the greens leader wants to meet me and the governor general wants to meet me. More or less the entire parliament house wants to meet me an represent of the crown want to meet me.

But we still working on trying to get government an the governor general to come to the embassy to meet with elder’s an leader of community so they can address they issue on the behalf of they community.

On top media from around the world a flying in as we speak. So they can broadcast everything live in Canberra on the day for they country. So that mean the hole world well be watching want going to happen in Canberra. Also media across this country well be there to. So they can broadcast everything to the whole country. 7 billion people an counting from around the world well be watching want going to happen in Canberra.

This is going to be the huge thing ever in this country history.

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[Admin Toby] In Unity 👣

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Thinking about life from being a child to now. No matter what pain in my leg I going to continue walking tonight an get closer to Canberra. I promise my father this an i going to walk it into Canberra no matter what anyone say. I promise my father I going to do this for my family, friends, my people an support. It time to listen to motivation to help me walk tonight.

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Time to listen to motivation tonight to help me walk.

Day 354: Leaving Mittagong

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Good morning guys here the video from BBC world news that they playing all day on they channel to get the Clinton walk for justice out to the world. The one man march for indigenous rights, who well soon have thousands marching with him in Canberra.

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I quick shout out to family who marching today at 1:00pm back at home in Roebourne town Pilbara country area. If you live around the area family an friend please go and march with everyone today. This About justice and it the right time to get justice for our people in the Pilbara area an across the country.

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[Admin Toby] Senior Constables Larkin & Thompson of the Mittagong NSW Highway patrol congratulating Clinton and wishing him well on the walk

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Keep donating guys we all must there guys an we need all the help we can get to Canberra and then the long journey back home to Perth.

[Admin Gee] We may have finished collecting donations to support The Walk For Justice but Clinton is now preparing to head back to Canberra for the November 4 National Gathering and is taking 5 Noongar Elders with him.

Please see the fundraiser for this undertaking!

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[Admin Toby] Uncle Herbert standing along the road making sure his nephew safe and strong walking to his destination.

Thanks to our bus drivers and those joining the walk to Canberra!

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[Admin Luke] Just sent a formal invitation to ALL Federal MPs & Senators to meet with Clinton and Aboriginal Elders from across the country at the Aboriginal Tent Embassy, Canberra next Tuesday.

Please give your Federal MPs and Senators a call and politely ask them to clear their schedule next Tuesday morning for one hour to come and meet with Clinton and the Elders!

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Admins Lisa, Gee and Luke are at the airport ready to head to Canberra! Thanks to all of you who donated and shared to make this possible.

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Wwwooo it made the news governor general refuses to step outside.

Please have a read.

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Day 353: Fitzroy Falls Visit

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[Admin Toby] Thankyou for all your work Barry McKay 😄👣

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[Admin Luke] In case you missed it when we posted an image of the physical paper version… Article from the Sunday Times

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[Admin Luke] BRISBANE FOLK: There are LOTS of tickets still available on the bus from Brisbane to join Clinton in Canberra. We really really need to fill these seats up so PLEASE BUY A TICKET and come along!!

You can also buy #PayItForward tickets for people who can’t afford their own.

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[Admin Gee] The Team are currently attending a Welcome and a School Visit but will be resuming the walk today from the Mittagong Hotel, walking towards Goulburn along the Old Hume Hwy and probably the M31.

Will update as we hear more!

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[Admin Luke] Good news, the Governor General will definitely be in town and available to meet with Clinton on Wednesday next week…..

We just might need to raise the pressure a bit to get him to actually come out and have a proper meeting with Clinton and the Elders at the Aboriginal Tent Embassy

More info soon.

Day 353: 1pm

[Admin Luke] Just got another reply from the Governor General’s office. He’s refusing to come out and discuss issues with Clinton and Aboriginal Elder’s at the Aboriginal Tent Embassy. Instead his office insists only on a 1-on-1 conversation, and only up at Government House.

I think it’s time for you all to give their office a phone call and politely ask the Governor General to come out and meet with Clinton and the Aboriginal Elders at the Aboriginal Tenty Embassy on September 6.

Here’s the number: (02) 6283 3533

Where is the respect for Sovereign First Nation people?? Clinton has walked 5500km, Elders are traveling from across the country and the Governor General refuses to come out and hear their stories and take their messages for the Queen??

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[Admin Toby] 8 people on the walk today 😃👣

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All my life I had a dream to make a difference in this world an now I getting closer to the end of the most amazing journey I could ever done in my entire life to archive some thing good that we’ll go down in history for ever.

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Time to listen to some good song.

Day 352: Mittagong

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We have been dropped off a Pheasants Nest Service Center 711. Heading to Canberra we are walking into the traffic. – Noonie

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[Admin Gee] Roebourne will be walking in support of Clinton this Thursday! Check out the event if you are in or around Roebourne.
Don’t forget to send in your pictures!

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[Admin Gee] Looking to catch up and do some walking with Clinton before Canberra? There are some details in this video, plus a little chat about the previous week.
We’ll keep you updated as we hear more.

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After waiting patiently for Clinton to show him her new supporters jacket, it’s all about Rosie now 🐾

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Days 350 & 351: Goulburn

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[Admin Luke] If you are in Melbourne, Democracy in Colour have organised a bus trip to the ACT to join Clinton in Canberra on September 3!

You can buy tickets for yourself or #PayItForward and secure a seat for someone who can’t afford it – but get in quick!

#ClintonsWalk #TreatyNOW

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[Admin Luke] Sydney people – Democracy in Colour have organised a bus trip to join Clinton in Canberra on September 3! Tickets have already been subsidised and can be purchased through Eventbrite:

Buy yourself a ticket – and/or if you are feeling generous you can #PayItForward by buying a ticket for someone who can’t afford it.

Tickets and further info available in event.

#ClintonsWalk #TreatyNOW

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[Admin Toby] In a movement to educate wider Australians of ongoing Indigenous wage discrimination, during the lead up to the 50th anniversary of the Wave Hill walk-off in August 2016, a flash mob style “art installation” was staged as a form of protest which took social media by storm.

The First Nations Workers’ Alliance followed as a new organisation formed alongside the Australian Unions. With CDP workers and the community they serve to give a voice to workers being exploited, while campaigning to end the CDP and replace it with a program that works for Indigenous people rather than oppressing them.

We were really pleased to see Zachary Joseph Wone caught up with Clinton in La Perouse!

Here is more info about FNWA from Australian Unions:

The Turnbull Government’s Community Development Program (CDP) is depriving tens of thousands of people of that opportunity. It’s punitive, heavy-handed and racially discriminatory and the Union movement is determined to see it removed.

CDP workers are not actually classified as workers. They get well below the minimum wage (the dole pays $11.60/hour or $290/week) for working for 25 hours a week for non-profit and now for-profit businesses.

They are not covered by the Fair Work Act, they don’t have Federal OHS protections or workers compensation and they can’t take annual leave, sick leave or carer’s leave.

Those under the CDP are forced to work up to three times longer than city-based jobseekers to receive welfare payments.

CDP workers have 70 times the financial penalties imposed upon them than non-remote dole workers.

Fines for missing activities under CDP – which coverers a tiny fraction of the population – account for more than half the total penalties across the entire welfare system.

https://www.australianunions.org.au/fnwa

FNWA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/firstnationsworkersalliance/

Day 351: 11am

Good morning guys please donate we need all the help donation we get for the team to get food equipment and other thing we need and after Canberra it the long drive back home to Perth. Please share and tell your family an friend about the walk for justice about the event on September the 3th also tell them to help donate.

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Please have a read. Sunday Times in Perth

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Please have a read

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Day 349: Yurtfarm

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I know some people my thing I crazy about a story I going to tell you. It may come truth or not. But I had very strange dream last night. It was not any other dream I had before. But it was the first dream I ever had in my entire life on this earth.

This dream was something I we’ll remember for a long time. In my dream last night there was this old lady, I mean a old lady. But this old lady was not any old lady I seen before. This old lady came down from the sky and I was shocked to see this old lady coming down from the sky. I ask this old lady who stood in front of me who are you. Please don’t say I crazy or this bloke is going of he head.

But this old lady look at me and said I’m GOD, yes she said she was GOD and no joke she said this to me. I stood still and was shakeI ask her your GOD. Why are you here on earth she told me she was upset with the world and how it is today. I said to her GOD why are you here she told me she here to out judge the human race and how the world been sinin all this time.

I explain to her about my sinin an my wrong doing ever since been on earth. Than I started telling her about how the human race didn’t not understand because the human race don’t know if there is a GOD or they mute not know you excise. They only know about GOD because Jesue walk on this earth 2,000 year ago and now it 2,000 year later people may believe the bible or not believe the bible because the human race never seen what GOD look like. It because no one never mean GOD on this earth only though Jesue teaching.

She look at me and said yes she understands. I ask her a other question your GOD but your mother earth to. She said yes I’m GOD an mother earth. That when I realise it was Mother earth she was upset how the world is. She than told me that she believe in me and my people to Change the world way of thinking and what to give the people on earth the time to change to become better than what they know now.

She said I believe in you and I believe in the people who stand true to them self by looking after the earth it self and not a loud greed an money to brain wash them and to be more greedy. I told her I understand what must be done to change the world and she said though peace, harmony and unity. It is the only way the world can come better and not though war, violence, power and greed. I understood said thank you and then she when back up to the sky and disc her pied.

I never hand a dream like that before in my life meeting GOD mother earth. We all know it said GOD can come down in different human bees and this was the first time I seen this in my dream. Now I know what need to be done the earth it self is sick and the human race need to change it way before she unleash her anger on us all for doing wrong by her. But to do it in a way that it is time for this government and leader around the world need to listen to first people of the country before think get worse.

Day 349: 10.30am

[Admin Lisa] Location Update for Saturday the 26th.
Clinton’s Walk for Justice has left the Wingecarribee and are heading to the Yurtfarm in Goulburn, to set up a base for Clinton.
Yurtfarm will be the basecamp for the next few days.

Day 349: 11.30am

Clinton’s Walk for Justice has left the Wingecarribee and are heading to the Yurtfarm, Goulburn in Monaro country, to set up a base for Clinton to complete his walk to Canberra, Sun 3rd Sept 2017 👣💛👣❤️👣#clintonswalkforjustice Thanks go to Peter Swain & Jo Albany for arranging a comfortable base for Clinton’s Walk for Justice 💛👍🏼❤️

And thanks to Beth for this update ✊

The Yurtfarm 1688 Range Rd Goulburn http://www.yurtfarm.com.au/

Day 349: 1.30pm

[Admin Luke] URGENT CALL TO ACTION: Contact the Governor General and tell him to meet with Clinton!

It’s time to make sure he knows the Spirit Walker is on his way and that we ALL expect a meeting to happen.

https://www.gg.gov.au/email-contacts

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Day 348: Berrima Scout Camp

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Friday the 25th started with photos with Clinton, out to the camp help pack then off to a Scout camping ground, then to start out walk. – Noonie

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Friday the 25th, we finish the at the 711 stop then we had to go to Sydney, pick up some Contains and drop off people at the airport, then back to the Scout camping ground. – Noonie

Day 347: Canberra Prep

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Good morning all calling out for assistance for LR licence drive to help drive the second Clinton walk for justice shuttle bus and to help people walk and rest on the bus. I need this LR licence drive by today this afternoon because tomorrow we heading of down the road to get closer to Canberra. We are in Mittagong town if people need to know where we are. So please if anyone that has a LR licence to help please message me thought Facebook message or on Clinton walk for justice page thank you.

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[Admin Luke] Do you live in Queensland and want to join Clinton’s Walk for Justice in Canberra for the big celebration on September 3? Well Democracy in Colour have organised a bus trip from Brisbane!

Tickets are subsidized and will be very popular, get in quick though because they may sell out fast!!!

#ClitonsWalk #TreatyNOW

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Word been going around saying I going to treaty with the government. Who said I was going to speak about treaty to the government. People thing I dont know anything try as many. When I have said I going to the governor general and speak to the represent of the crown to talk about treaty between two Sovereign country. I only going do that if only all the serious elder’s who a coming agree on it. If they say no I not going to do it. I listen to my elder and follow culture way and not lising to other people agenda to change my view on what I trying to do. I getting sick to death with people jumping the gun with non-think never happen yet. People need to pull up and think for a sec. I have organised a big meeting in Canberra with everyone when they arrive to talk about issues and what need to be done to start moving thing forward. The topic well be talk about treaty and what tip of treaty need to be done to make sure to save our culture, lore, land and most of all to getting think done so we can help our people an the future generations. There be other talk about issues but like how I said I not going to do anything without elder and everyone else agree on thing.

People trying to hijacked my walk to push for they agenda. I also going to speak out about this people trying to hijacked my walk. I have walk a long way from where I have started to now people should respect that. I be speaking out for justice for those who never got justice for love once, community that a living in 3rd world condition, community that been close down like my family community was close down and half of my family die living on the street and other issues we collected ever sin been on the journey. This walk was never easy it is a hard road to walk on but at less we know now I getting closer coming to the end of this amazing journey. People should respect what I have done and not go jumping the gun when you should know none thing have not been done yet. But remember who the person walk all that way Clinton walk for justice.

Day 347: 12pm

[Admin] Coming from Sydney ?
Did you know Democracy in Colour have arranged for transport to Canberra.
Tickets are selling, so be quick

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[Admin Lisa] Welcome to the Event Page for the final days of Clintons Walk for Justice.

This page is where you will need to check in, we will post daily about where to join the walk, what progress is being made and any other important information that we feel you need to be aware of. Please read the current expectations:

👣 Joining the walk 👣

What you need to bring :
You will be responsible for your own food, camping gear, water, money and any other costs incurred while walking.

We would love you to bring your commitment, your sense of humour and your deepest respects for what Clinton has achieved in the last year and how important this last final part of his walk is.

We want to keep the fires burning, so if you are coming to the Aboriginal Tent Embassy please bring some wood to offer, funds for yourself and a sense of unity and purpose.

We want to use this opportunity to remind people that Clinton is THE ONLY spokesperson for his Walk for Justice .

We will not tolerate any unsociable behaviours, drugs and alcohol are not appropriate or acceptable and you will be asked to leave if any of these basic courteous rules are not followed.

Everyone is welcome to join in but it is up to you to work out where, when and how.

There are buses available for people who may be having a tough day or just want an easier day, the buses can also be used to store your camping gear on during the day so that you are free to walk.

The Admin Team are flying over to join you all next week and we want to take this opportunity to thank you all for your help and support in getting us over there. It is really appreciated and we couldn’t have done any of this without you !!

Day 347: 12.30pm

[Admin Lisa] Coming from Melbourne ?
Did you know Democracy in Colour have arranged for transport to Canberra ?
Tickets are selling, so be quick

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[Admin Toby] Thankyou Walkatjurra Walkabout mob for this beautiful video message ✊👣

If you have videos or photos please post onto the page with the hashtag:
#clintonswalk

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Day 346: Mackey Rest Area

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[Admin Team] But he knew he was there for a reason, and that he could make a difference, so he kept going, one step at a time.

“When I got there I learnt so much about our sovereign people and what we’ve been fighting for,”

This article in The Saturday Paper is one of our favourites!

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Good morning guys it a beautiful day today.

Day 346: 1.30pm

[Admin Toby] Over the course of Clinton’s Walk, his Uncle Herbert Bropho has kept in contact by often sending me video’s and – as im sure you have seen – the many memes and images blended into works of art. He surprised Clinton and the crew by joining them in Sydney for the final length to Canberra, sporting one of the supporter shirts. He has never given up advocating for rights, his nephews cause, speaking at rallies such as the nation wide ‘Justice for Elijah’ protests, and local issues such as Wadjemup (Rottnest Island), the case of Matagarup and homelessness.

In a defiant plea, Uncle Herbert also sits at the gates of his former Swan Valley community every Monday since being closed by the WA State Government in 2003. Its people were immediately disposessed and made homeless after 11 houses were demolished in the dawn with no notice of eviction given to the families.

With the demolition of community infrastructure at Oombulgurri
and Barnetts intention of further community closures, the situation of homelessness rose to media attention again in 2016 following a 3rd raid to confiscate personal belongings on Hieresson Island by police and City of Perth officials. Although registered as a sacred site, an Injunction lodged by Bella Bropho was unsuccessful at the time that Clinton set out accross the country on foot.

Here is a video of Matagarup or Hieresson Island that Uncle Herbert shared with me a few weeks ago that I hadn’t seen and its honesty struck me. Featured in New Zealand it was free of media bias and its images presented the fact that not much has changed in the approach of governments to the realities of First Nations People.

Matagarup – a place of Aboriginal cultural significance – was called a refugee camp for valid reasons.

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[Admin Lisa] Are you planning on joining the walk ?? If you are, then you need to read this.

What you need to bring :

You will be responsible for your own food, camping gear, water, money and any other costs incurred while walking.

We would love you to bring your commitment, your sense of humour and your deepest respects for what Clinton has achieved in the last year and how important this last final part of his walk is.

We want to keep the fires burning, so if you are coming to the Aboriginal Tent Embassy please bring some wood to donate, funds for yourself and a sense of unity and purpose.

We want to use this opportunity to remind people that Clinton is THE ONLY spokesperson for his Walk for Justice .

We will not tolerate any unsociable behaviours, drugs and alcohol are not appropriate or acceptable and you will be asked to leave if any of these basic courteous rules are not followed.

Everyone is welcome to join in but it is up to you to work out where, when and how.

There are buses available for people who may be having a tough day or just want an easier day, the buses can also be used to store your camping gear on during the day so that you are free to walk.

Please label all your possessions.

An Event Page will be created that we will share and ask you to join. This will be where we post updates about where Clinton and the team are at and this will also be the place where walkers will need to check in to for any important announcements.

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Day 345: Appin

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[Admin Toby] This time last year was the 50th Anniversary of the Wave Hill walk-off, which is commemorated every year by a festival at Kalkaringji and Daguragu. This video clip captures the parade on the path of the walk-off, concert and fireworks to a live edit of ‘From Little Things, Big Things Grow’.

On the 23rd of August Vincent Lingiari led the workers and families to walk off Wave Hill station and begin their seven-year strike. Initially, a strike against work and living conditions, it soon became a long campaign for the return of thier most sacred lands.

In 1967, Gurindji petitioned the Governor-General, claiming 1,295 km² of land near Wave Hill. Their claim was rejected. While Dagaragu would eventually become the first cattle station to be owned and managed by an Aboriginal community, today known as the Murramulla Gurindji Company, it took many years before the Gurindji achieved this.

In 1969 the Liberal-National CountryCoalition government was given a proposal to give eight square kilometres back to the Gurindji. Cabinet refused even to discuss the issue.

In support of the walk-off there were demonstrations and arrests in southern Australia and many church, student and trade union groups gave practical and fundraising support to the Gurindji struggle.

Vincent Lingiari, Billy Bunter Jampijinpa and others toured Australia, with the support of workers’ unions, to give talks, raise awareness, build support for their cause and have meetings with major lawyers and politicians. Frank Hardy recalled at a fundraising meeting, a donor gave $500 after hearing Vincent Lingiari speak. The donor – who said he had never before met an Aboriginal person – was a young Dr Fred Hollows the eye surgeon.

Hardy also records Pincher Manguari as saying:

“We want them Vestey mob all go away from here. Wave Hill Aboriginal people bin called Gurindji. We bin here long time before them Vestey mob. This is our country, all this bin Gurindji country. Wave Hill bin our country. We want this land; we strike for that.”

In 1975, the Labor government of Gough Whitlam negotiatiated with Vesteys to give the Gurindji back a portion of their land. This was a breakthrough in the land rights movement in Australia.

“I want this to acknowledge that we Australians have still much to do to redress the injustice and oppression that has for so long been the lot of Black Australians.”

The handback took place on 16 August 1975 with Whitlams speach and the famous gesture of pouring sand into Vincent’s Lingiari’s hand.

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Just got giving a possuim skin to wear to Canberra from the elder’s of Mittagong town. It look beautiful, amazing an it a honour to wear it. They giving it to me to wear it until I finish the walk off and I when I finish the walk i we’ll give it back to the elder’s in Mittagong. Thank you guys so much for this.

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Our start to the day to our lunch break in Appin. 22nd. – Noonie

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[Admin Toby] Update: Clinton is approaching Mittagong today. 👣🐾

One of the buses will shuttle people from Campbelltown between where he is, and each camp site for the night. ⛺️

And the rules on the bus go round and round 😀🚌🎶 Pick up’s are along the main road only. No drugs or drinking – elders and children are priority 👍

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[Admin Luke] Hey all, Admin Luke with a quick reminder that we’re still trying to raise enough funds to cover the cost of bringing the Admin Team and Uncle Noel over to join Clinton in Canberra!

We’ve almost made it all the way to our goal, just $1460 to go!!

That said, we’re also considering adding an extra $500 to help bring Clinton’s lady across to join us too..

What do y’all think of that idea?

Send your donations now to help make it happen!

#ClintonsWalk

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After lunch through the Pass to the end of out day. – Noonie

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When you got little supporter and kids who look up to you as a hero to them. Also on top dress up like you and going to walk with you when you walk into Canberra. How cute is this little man. Thank you Danielle M Baxter for sending me this picture of your boy.

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Our day on the 22nd of August, another enjoyable day in paradise. – Noonie